Sunday, April 20, 2025

Landmann and Dottin - the first meeting of the London and Greenwich Railway Board

 

This week I want to continue with the background to George Landmann’s involvement in the London and Greenwich Railway.  I left it a couple of weeks ago with the crucial first meeting in 1831 of what was to become the Board -  the group of men who were to set up the Greenwich Railway .Before I do so there are still some issues in Landmann’s life before 1831 which,  if I am telling his story,  I need to add in. So, I want to return briefly to his private life – if only to keep his story in some sort of order.  I need to go back a few years, to before he resigned his commission in 1824.. 

I don’t know why Landmann resigned his commission but I believe he had orders for a posting which he did not want to take up = possibly to Ceylon.  This may be an indication that there were reasons why the authorities wanted him out of the way.  It is noticeable that in his life after he left the army he no longer seems to have contact with royalty and other elites - his whole lifestyle became much more down market.  Remarkably the obituaries published after his death, some 30 years later, only describe his life up until the sale of his commission - there is never anything about his subsequent career and the building of two railways. This complete omission of his later life was continued in national biographies. After 1824 in official eyes he ceased to exist,

In 1821 his son Charles was born. Strangely his birthplace was a central London hotel - the Chedron Hotel in Leicester Square.  He was later christened in the central  London church of St Martin's in the Fields. I am convinced that these prominent locations were chosen to make some sort of statement - although I'm not entirely clear what it is.  Landmann was not married to Charles’ mother – his wife and mother of Louisa and George  was Harriett Dickinson arri  - his new partner was Harriett Hayward, and her background is very interesting.

Harriett was 23 and had been born in Brandon,  Suffolk.  Her father was Philip Hayward and if you go to Brandon today you can see his house (https://www.brecsoc.org.uk/). There are many websites which describe him and how he set up the Brandon flint industry.   In the late 18th century flint was increasingly needed in the manufacture of ordinance and it appears that originally it was sourced from chalk mines in the Swanscombe area, near Gravesend. Philip Hayward is said to have gone from there to Brandon in the 1790s to set up a flint knapping industry there which would provide huge amounts of flints for ordnance manufacture.

In the 1980s Stella, my then boss, had a house in the forest at Brandon and I spent a lot of time there and really got to know it.  The whole town has reminders of the flint industry in names of houses, pubs and streets and all sorts of reminders of what was the major industry and a source of great changes in this small town.

Harriett Hayward appears to have been a respectable middle class young woman and maybe there was a scandal over Landmann’s relationship with her – although in the 1820s the moral climate was still – well – Georgian!  They were to stay together, marrying  in 1844 two months after his wife, Harriett Dickinson’s death.

In 1831 several other men became involved in setting up what became the Greenwich railway.  So, before I start the actual story of the railway I need to look at the people who were involved at the start of it.  In the early 19th century many, many companies were being floated  and if you look at the newspapers of the day you will find many lists of these companies and proposals which include lists of the first investors and of  those who want to launch the company.  In the 1820s and 30s many of these flotations were about building new railways.  I intend to look at these in the context of the Greenwich Railway but, first, there are more general issues involved.

So,  back to Landmann and some of his contacts. After he resigned his commission in 1824 he apparently took off around Europe with William Congreve in order to try and sell gasworks to European cities, in which they were successful. They did this under the auspices of the London based Imperial Continental Gas Association.  Congreve had been involved with a number of gas companies in London and , for example. had worked to bring the attention of royalty with a spectacular display at peace celebrations in 1814. He was involved in a number of gas companies  - some with people who were less than honest.

The Imperial Continental Gas Association seems to have escaped some of these scandals and prospered, only being wound up in the 1980s – when some of the European gas industry was British owned, rather than the other way round.  By chance when ICGA  was in its last days I was in almost daily contact with its last Chair – he was a friend of Stella’s - and I was able to learn more about the history of the company through him.

One of the main promoters of the Imperial Continental Gas Association was Mathias Atwood who was a director and partner in Spooner Bank. Spooners became the bankers for the Greenwich Railway and Mathias Atwood was to become their Treasurer. Although most histories of the railway mention at Attwood as a prominent banker he was much more than that . The Attwoods were a large and interesting family who had spread from an iron works in the Black Country into to into chemicals and much else.  Mathais’s  father had made  a fortune through a monopoly on Swedish iron.  His brother was Thomas Attwood the Reformer and early Chartist.  His son,  Mathias Wolverley Attwood, was Member of Parliament for Greenwich. The fortunes of the Atwood family were very much based on the exploitation of new technologies – like ICGA and the Greenwich Railway.

In November 1831 notices appeared in the newspapers from a solicitor’s company announcing an application for an Act of Parliament to enable a railway to be built from London to Greenwich.  This application resulted from the meeting of  25th of November of the group who were to constitute the first board, the body which would oversee the construction of the new  railway.  They were George Landmann himself  with a George Walter,  Abel Rous Dottin,  Robert Johnston, Digby Neave.  John Twells and A.K. Hutchinson . So who were they and what was their interest in the railway.  They met in Dottin’s office

I think  A.K. Hutchinson was the company solicitor and he was presumably present as an advisor..  George Walter was to becomer a major player in the construction of the  early railway its construction but does not appear in the list of subscribers which was published soon after the notice of intention to go to Parlisment.   I think he probably deserves quite a long piece about his background and activities –so you will have to wait for another week for that.

Abel Rous Dottin was the first Chair. He was by then in his sixties and had had a past as a Captain in the 2nd Life Guards . He is described as ‘a gentleman of ample means and genial disposition - a fine old English gentleman’. (Hmm!). His family’s fortune was based on Plantations in Barbados and In 1837 he was ro receive compensation for estates there and 174 slaves.

In the 1830s Dottin was a Member of Parliament for Southampton. Earlier however, in 1818, he had been MP for Gatton  - Gatton? At school when we learnt about the 1832 Reform Bill we were  told about Gatton – the rottenmost of rotten Boroughs.  It had a couple of electors who usually sold their votes for cash. You can still see the ‘Town Hall‘ – basically a garden folly in the grounds of a school.In the 1830s as MP for Southampton Dottin was involved in the Southampton and London Railway and Dock Company and later he was a Director of the London and South Western Railway.

Robert Johnson was another West Indies slave owner but one who was widely travelled. He moved to the United States quite soon after his involvement with the Greenwich Railway and so was not around to see it finished and open.

Digby Neave seems have been rather different.  He was a Baronet with an estate in the Romford area of Essex. He was also  an artist exhibiting  at the Royal Academy and a close friend of Constable.  He was related by marriage to Abel Dottin and late he was also involved in the Dover Railway Company and New Gravesend Railway Companies.

John Twells was a partner in the Spooner Attwood Bank and related by marriage to the Attwood family

Thus we can see that the steering  committee of the Greenwich railway consisted of middle aged and elderly men, some of them MPs and  mostly Tories - with a strong element of bankers and, I’m afraid, slave owners.  Ron Thomas pointed out in his history of the London & Greenwich that some of them had service connexions in the army.  

I will finish here with George Landmann and note the birth in September 1832 of his daughter Helen Catherine – his second child with Harriett Haywood. . We should also  note that her birth was in the Old Kent Road; an area into which Landmann had recently moved and  something which I will take up in a future article. .She was however baptised, like her elder brother, at St Martin in the Fields. 

Helen is the most interesting of Landmann’s children and in fact he seems to have done rather better with his daughters than with his sons.  I have not yet detailed his eldest child, Louisa, who by the time of Helen’s birth was 28 years old - and there will be more to come about both of them.

 

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