Tuesday, December 24, 2024

Deptford Church Street and Banks Mineral Water

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In the past couple of weeks these articles have concentrated on the corn mills and wharves at Deptford Bridge and just down the Creek at the Old Flood Mill.  The wharves which fronted onto  the Creek at Deptford Bridge itself were Albion Wharf and Ravensbourne Wharf and I also looked at them back last October year when I was working upstream on the Greenwich side of the Creek.  As I noted then much of this area was used by the Trenchard family with their saw mill and stone merchants business.  I also wrote about the area last year in articles about Mumford’s Mill and, earlier, Kamptulicon and the maltings at Hope Wharf.  I wrote about the Trenchard family last week in more detail

The road frontage on the south side of Deptford Bridge consisted of a line of shops of various sorts which, obviously, changed over the years. In 1871 they included a tobacconist, a boot maker, a ‘trimming seller’ (what's that?) and a pub called the Mitre. In 1894 there was a photographer, and herbalists, among others, but no pub – it had been demolished for ‘improvement’ works and new buildings.

On the corner with Church Street was a very large building which is marked on maps at ‘Deptford Liberal Club’.  It was however in reality magnificent shop building ‘Gardiners, ‘Scotch House’.   This was one of a big chain of drapers shops selling ‘all things Scottish’ owned by the Gardiner brothers who had opened their first London shop in 1839.  These large stores could be found in most London shopping areas from Knightsbridge to Whitechapel, often on a prominent corner site with a turret or similar feature dominating on the corner.

In 1885 the Deptford Liberal Club rented fifteen upstairs rooms from the Gardiners and was fitting them out as a club. ‘As we have seen from previous articles successive Chairs of the Club were members of the Trenchard family whose works were adjacent.  We hear of the many meetings held there and important issues of national and local concern –speakers included for instance a young George Bernard Shaw talking about the Fabians.  Sometimes these concerned local trade disputes as when in 1889 gas worker activists were at the club during the ‘strike’ against the South Met. Gas Co.  and the Club’s band attended the great Hyde Park demonstration on 4th May 1890.  However, much of the club's activity was sporting – billiards seems to have featured- although I assume there was no alcohol allowed given the temperance interests of the Robinsons from the adjacent mill complex who also seem to have had an interest. 

Temperance or not we all know that these clubs need the bar takings to keep going - and Deptford Club was clearly soon in trouble.  In 1924 there was a major legal action by Gardiners against the club which was heard at the Kings Bench.  I don’t know the details but I rather think it was about unpaid rents.   In 1928 the Club reopened at 20a Tanners Hill – the first room opened and in use being the billiard hall.

At the back of the club and the adjacent Church Street shops was an area which was used by the London Parcels Delivery Company.  Now, we all think that parcels used to be delivered by the Post Office although how there are also companies like Herms and DHL.  Obviously there is a history of parcel delivery organisations – parcels have always needed to be sent and delivered - which specialised in such services and which needed depots all round the country.  

The London Parcels Delivery Company was set up in 1837 with headquarters at Rolls Yard in Fetter Lane in the City.  I think this is probably the site, or the grounds of, the old Public Record Office, the Rolls Building, in Chancery Lane. The plan had been developed by the Post Office and its division of London into postal districts. Postal districts were arranged the centre of London in two circular areas – one was, and is, three miles from the Rolls Yard, and the other twelve miles. On the south east post – and the parcels delivery - went out as far as Plumstead.  Parcels were collected from addresses and then all taken to Rolls Yard where they were sorted into distribution areas – which sounds remarkably inefficient – and then sent out to a network of agents for delivery.  A court case against a rival Parcel and Post Mail ensured that these agents only worked for the London company and were assumed to be very respectable. 

The company had eighty delivery carts and thirty stables – with a hundred horses stabled at Rolls Yard. Each cart was staffed by a man and a boy – who were seen as very dutiful and hard working, except at Christmas when customers gave them presents of gin.

The Deptford Yard will have been one of these respectable agencies and presumably had a number of horses and carts.  However, there are the usual newspaper stories of, for instance in 1886, a car man, Turner, working for the company was fined for cruel treatment of a horse, and how in 1881 Alfred Exall, one of their drivers was arrested for ‘driving furiously; and running someone over someone’.  Fast traffic and aggressive drivers are always with us!

Shops further down Church Street included a bird dealer. In the only reference I can find on him, a Mr. Grimwade, he was arrested for stealing pigeons. When we see ‘bird dealer; we tend to think of someone selling hapless finches and linnets in cages – but I wonder if they actually catered for the racing pigeon fraternity,

Continuing down Church Street a few doors down was 10 The Druid’s Head pub, which closed only in 1971. It dated from the 1829s and I wondered if the name was connected to ship built in the Royal Dockyard.  There have been – and are - Royal Navy ships called ‘Druid’. But none built at Deptford until 1869.

The last buildings I wanted to look at in Church Street is George Banks' Mineral Water factory which fronted on to 112-116 Church Street and backed onto the Creek.  They also had works in the High Street area.   This was a sizeable establishment which made all sorts of soft drinks. I had always been led to believe – growing up immediately post war – that bottled water was something sold on the Continent and elsewhere because they didn’t have decent fresh water in the taps like us British did.  And so I have learnt with some surprise that up to the 1920s the country was crammed with ‘mineral water’ manufacturers.   Banks described himself in the 1880s as a soda water manufacturer but his works made all sorts of beverages ‘ginger beer, lemonade ginger ale, kola and hop ale’ as well as ‘fruit syrups and cordials’ all 'best quality and warranted non-intoxicating’... ’the best ever offered to the public’.

Banks himself is interesting in that his background gives no indication of an interest in soft drinks. He came from Norwich and had enlisted in the army and fought in the Crimea – achieving the Turkish and Crimea medals. He went as an orderly – batman -  to Lord Wolseley. Wolseley himself is interesting with an amazing career (despite his racism) Irish and educated in Dublin, he had a life crowded with incident (look him up in Wikipedia) and is someone else who ended up as a Gilbert and Sullivan character – in the Pirates of Penzance.  He had been attached to the Royal Engineers in the Crimea and was one of the last to leave.  Presumably Banks accompanied Lord Wolseley – going with him to India having been shipwrecked on the way to China?  Wolseley was involved in several actions in India including the siege at Lucknow as one of the Quarter Masters’ department. He went on to fight in China. Was Banks with him then?  Wolseley went from there to hobnobbing with Confederates and gun runners in the US and much much else.  However I think we can assume that Banks had left him before he went to the US if not earlier. What skills he had must have been learnt in the army.  In the 1880s Wolseley was to live locally at The Ranger’s House, ‘at the invitation of the Queen’.

Totally irrelevant to this is Wolseley‘s brother Frederick, who went to Australia and invented sheep shearing equipment. He employed a Mr. Austin as his engineer.  They came back to England and then ..... now  Wolseley’  .. ‘Austin’  … haven’t we heard those names before somewhere??

Banks left the army to work in Deptford Dockyard and in 1871 was a labourer at Penn’s in Blackheath Road. By the 1880s he was making mineral waters in Church Street.  An analysis of his drinks appears in advertisements having been undertaken by Granville H. Sharp - - this is a chemist from Liverpool not the anti slavery activist. They were said to be of ‘excellent quality and flavour’ and ‘aerated with carbonic aid gas’ and generally of the best possible everything. Banks also claimed to have ‘prize medal machinery’.

One of the ways we know about Banks is from the old bottle collectors. Looking through the auction houses I am amazed at the prices being paid for bottles which in their day were mass produced. I am sorry that as ever I can’t use these pictures which will all be someone’s copy write

As ever notices in the papers about Banks' works tend to focus on the behaviour of his various delivery drivers - driving too fast or had runaway horses, or whatever. It makes you realise that the age of horse drawn traffic really wasn’t much different to today - you were run over by a horse and cart rather than by a car.  Another delivery driver was caught issuing fraudulent receipts to Fulham Cricket Club for mineral water. 

I hope that next week I will have worked my way down to the actual west bank of the Creek – and arrive to start with, at Theatre Wharf.

 

 

 

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