I started off writing this with totally different idea of
what it was going to be about. I thought
I would begin with asking who people thought was the most popular female singer
of the 20th century? There
are lots of lists on the net but all of them only list singers who were post
1960. Come on, there has to be someone
earlier than Dusty?
I then began to look at the crossroads at the bottom of
what is now Vanburgh Hill and Blackwall Lane as they intersect the Woolwich Road.
Both of those roads have had several different
names. And I thought - ‘I’ll start
there’.
The earliest map we have of Greenwich is Travers 1697 plan which
shows the Woolwich Road with ‘Green Lane’ running north from it but there is
nothing we could recognise as Vanburgh Hill.
However it does, most importantly, show ‘Conduit 9’ - north of Woolwich Road
and West of the future Vanbrugh Hill. I
wrote quite a bit about this conduit head in an article a few weeks ago and I’m
sorry if I’m repeating myself here but I think it’s an interesting subject and
hopefully this has got a different spin on it from the previous article.
Vanburgh Hill‘s earliest name was ‘Conduit Lane’. .Do the residents of 103- 127 Vanbrugh Hill
have any record of their houses being called ‘Conduit Terrace’? In 1851 they were advertised as having “two good bedrooms, two parlours, kitchen, small flower gardens in front,
enclosed with ornamental iron palisading, and good garden in the rear”.
The conduit itself is now forgotten. Was it a source of fresh water to be used by
local people or was it just a derelict structure?. When in the course was it
removed and who by? Did it remain as a heap
of unidentified stones for many years? Is
it possible some of those stones remained in somebody’s back garden?
Travers explained that ‘Conduit 9’ was the remains of the Arundel Conduit which
brought water down the hillside from Blackheath to Crown properties on Ballast
Quay ‘in earthen pipes now destroyed’.
The conduit was on the south west corner of the crossroads Diagonally opposite on the north east is the
Ship and Billet pub, aka ‘Thai Tiger’. It stands on a plot where surrounding land
was owned, as now, by the Hatcliffe charity. Although even in 1697 the pub site
appears to be separate.
Perhaps we should look at this pub which has been on that corner
site for over 150 years. For most of the time it was called The Ship and
Billet’. There are press reports of it from the 1840s but I guess it is very
much older than that - the date could be established from the Justices Minutes
which will record its licencing, but
they are archive material, unavailable to me .
The pub seems to have been a local entertainment centre and
behind it was a big garden on the site now covered by the Greenwich Town Social
Club. There are some jolly Victorian pictures of people socialising in the
grounds. After that the pub
survived as a destination on bus blinds and as a local landmark. As pubs began to close in the 1980s it went
into other ownership and into a silly names mode. It eventually closed
following a visit from the Councils licencing staff which was dramatically
described by Mr. 853 blogger about how it was being run by various drunken
customers, the landlord having vanished.
On the opposite side of Woolwich Road – thr south east
corner - where the baths and library now
stand, most people will remember Greenwich District Hospital? It was built on the site of the Greenwich
Union Workhouse of 1834. Which was on “a pull of upland lying on the south side
of the highway ... called by the name of
Catts Brains’. The building was
extended in 1875 and its medical sections greatly increased. The workhouse and its infirmary was in some
ways a centre for East Greenwich with space for public and official meetings as
well as providing an infirmary which treated members of the public as well as
inmates
In 1818 Greenwich
and Woolwich Lower Road Turnpike Trust was set up to manage the main road from
the Arsenal gates to Greenwich. As part
of this legislation a toll gate was set up at the crossroads and called
’Greenwich Gate. This was on a site in the centre of the crossroads and marked
on a slightly earlier map as ‘pound’ – that is a secure enclosure where stray
animals could be held. It doesn’t look
to be over large and no doubt they weren’t expecting much more than a single
stray sheep or pig. In 1828 there was a
toll house "on the west side of the southern extremity of
Marsh Lane, and also near to the northern extremity of the lane bounding the
west side of the Greenwich Union Workhouse, and commonly called Love
Lane". I am not aware of any
pictures or indeed any information about this toll gate and toll house. There
are smatterings of news stories about various disputes on access here which
only show that it was staffed.
On the site adjacent to the conduit head things were
changing.. Aas I mentioned in my earlier article a house was built there in
1830 - Conduit House – and ‘Vale cottage ‘or ‘Hyde vale cottage. The cottage was
the home of Joshua Taylor Beale and later his son John Taylor Beale was in
Conduit House before he moved to Westcombe Park. I have written elsewhere about the Beales and
hopefully I will one day do a 'proper' article. Joshua had an engineering works
adjacent to the Enderby site on the Peninsula where he built steam cars and
other items. Most important was his development of the ’exhauster’ as an
adaption of his rotary steam engine design and which became a must have item in
gas works. After his death his son John sold the exhauster patent to Donkin's
in Bermondsey, later Chesterfield. Who were still producing equipment based on a
modified version of it in the 1960s.
Conduit House later became a clinic for the Metropolitan
Borough of Greenwich and ended its days as Conduit House Club for the Rechabite
Order.
The final site to note has to be the cinema on this south west
corner of he crossroads was built on the
footprint of Conduit House. I had intended initially to write this article
about the cinema only but there is so much written already about it that there
is very little I can add. There are a
number of websites including the ever reliable Cinema Treasures https://cinematreasures.org/theaters/3781. There
is a particularly interesting writer of the site by Rob Powell.. https://www.greenwich.co.uk/magazine/05212-greenwich-granada-plaza-234-trafalgar/
THz Greenwich Granada
it is only too easily confused with the Woolwich Granada and many
sources call the Woolwich buikding ‘Greenwich Granada’ because it’s in the borough
of Greenwich. The Woolwich Granada is a very important cinema and I’m afraid our Greenwich Granada was a lot less
glamorous .
Rob explains that The Granada Theatre chain was
‘experiencing incredible growth in the 1930s' Our Geeenwich cinema dates from 1937. It could seat 1900 and was designed
by C.
Howard Crane, with the interior designed by Theodore
Komisarjevsky although it was
not one of his trademark dramatic interiors. In fact it was rather conventional. I ought to admit that I never saw the inside of
it when it was functioning as a cinema
but I understand it was the “plainest
of the purpose built Granada Theatre chain.”
There was of course a Mighty
Wurlitzer organ, able to “command a world of music, from a full
symphony orchestra to a Chinese tom-tom”. Web sites say that it was recovered when
the building closed and was taken to Cornwall and then rescued again by
enthusiasts to be restored. Does anyone know what has happened to it?.
Inevitably
it became a bingo hall from 1963 until the 1980s and then became a bad news night
club.- Stars - locally known as ’Stabs’.
.
In 1996 it was closed gutted and thirty-nine flats inside. Rob Powell's
article includes some great pictures taken by Mr. 853 of the site when it was
just a skeleton within four walls and no roof. When I was a councillor for the area I
remember being told about the building by one of our officers from the noise
team who said that because it was built as a theatre there were all sorts of
special structures within the walls which were to do with noise containment and
ventilation. These would only be understood
by a specialist on the subject.
So the flats are still there and it is now basically an apartment block . As part of my work as a councillor I sometimes
went in to meet residents. I’ve never
seen a picture of the interior and I’m unable to even find a description of it on
line but I remember it very vividly. It
consists of flats around an atrium which had in it four enormous sculptures of
palm trees made entirely out of tin cans.
It was a very very dramatic interior – are they still there and is it
still like that?
At the
beginning of this article I asked about the most popular female singer of the
20th century . I had looked at a lot of websites which all seemed to
think there was no form of popular musical life before the 1960s. But the Greenwich Granada was opened by a big
star of the 1930s.
I’ve
recently been reading Iris Bryce’s memories of her childhood in 1930s Greenwich.
Like many other local children Iris was
all excitement to see the star who was to open the new cinema. Unfortunately she
had an accident in the kitchen so her Mum would not allow her to go out and
sent her to bed.
So Iris
tiptoed into the front bedroom and climbed on a chair to look out of the window
“but all I could see were roof tops .... then soaring over them I heard Gracie
start to sing ‘Sally’. The words were
clear and pure and to my astonishment I felt tears pouring down my face... I hadn’t missed the opening after all”.. Outside were crowds of many hundreds –
estimated at up to 10,000 - people who had come and see ‘Our Gracie ‘.She was piped into the cinema by the Dagenham Girl Pipers and went straight up to a roof balcony to
perform ‘Sing as we go’ and’ Sally’.
In the past
few days I have asked everybody I have encountered what they know about Gracie
Fields. No one under 60 had any idea who she was. The 10,000 people who turned
out to see her in 1936 in Trafalgar Road were just a tiny fraction in the
numbers of her fans nationally.
It was a
great day for East Greenwich.
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